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Friday, October 6, 2006

Foley Scandal Gets Strange

You know the "scandal" the Democrats, and their lapdogs in the Legacy Media have been "pushing?

Yesterday, I heard Rush report Drudge releasing new info on the page. It was apparently a prank gone awry. Then, I heard that thhe pasge had retained Stephen (sp?) Jones, of Timothy McVeigh fame, to represent him. Hmmm, curious.

I heard on Quinn & Rose this morning more information concerning that some Democratic activists got the info, and sat on it until it became useful. In my opinion, they pulled the trigger too soon, it woulda been better to release the info the Friday before the election. But, if they believed the information in the IMs, then I believe they are guilty of a crime.

Then later on, I found the following:

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Meet Jordan Edmund One Mark Foley Instant Messanger



Jordan Edmund is 21 years oldMark Foley is a scumbag! Mark Foley is a scumbag! Mark Foley is a scumbag!Now that that is out of the way I will reveal how I (and a few others) discovered Jordan Edmund was one of the former house pages that participated in sexually explicit instant messages with Rep. Mark Foley. Also I will explain to you why I believe it necessary to reveal Jordan Edmund's identity. You may not agree with my decision, but I hope to explain my reasoning by the end of this story.On the evening of September 30th I did what many people did and I read the instant messages released by Brian Ross at ABC NEWS. Here is the link to the pdf of the instant messages. When I had finished reading the messages I felt disgust toward what Foley did. Below is a picture of the last 3 lines of that instant message.

I was so upset about what Foley said to an 17 year old boy that I started searching the ABC NEWS website to find out if there were more instant messages. This is what I found.

Same instant message with one big difference. The teen's AOL screen name is clearly visible. I could only come up with 2 conclusions; either someone at ABC NEWS screwed up big time or they meant for someone to find the unedited instant message.I decided to see if I could find out more information about the screen name. Since I do not have and AOL account I instant messaged Ms. Underestimated to see if she had an AOL account. She did and I asked her to check and see if the screen name lolakana223 had a profile on AOL. I sent her the screen name and she told me that there was a profile so I asked her to send me a screen shot of the profile. She sent me the screen shot and asked me who the person was. I told her I would tell her but she should not tell anyone else. I explained how I found the screen name and together we decided to see what else we could find. Below is the screen shot of the profile. Click to enlarge.

First we discussed what the screen name could mean. I thought the screen name meant, lol aka N/A February 23, because February 23 was when the teen in the instant message said, "im not 18 till feb 23." From the AOL profile we now had the possible first name and state of the teen (I say possible because at the time we had no idea that we were looking at the actual first name and state of the teen.) Ms. U noticed that the profile had not been updated since 1/7/03 (a little more than a month before the teens 18th birthday) also the profile had only been viewed 12 times since it was created. We came to the conclusion that we had discovered something that almost no one else had. It was late so we both went to bed.The next mourning I got an idea to search for Congressional Page website that might answer the question that was bugging me. Who is Jordan? My search lead me to pagealumni.us (the website is down now.) As soon as I clicked on the link I saw this screen before I was redirected to the website. Click picture to enlarge.
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You can find out more here.

Commentary

What do I think?

I think that the Democrats outed a slimeball.

I also think that by sitting on the info, they outed themselves as slimeballs.

And the Legacy Media have outed themselves as slimeballs by playing along.

They both are trying to tell a lie often enough so that it will be believed ala Adolf Hitler's famous quote.

Oh, and there is more. A later post on the same website reveals that McVeigh's lawyer has told the blogger to stop.

As follows:

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Stephen Jones Demands I pull the Jordan Edmund Story
I got this email yesterday:
Dear William Kerr and Passionate America:Please be advised that I represent Jordan Edmund. It is our understanding that you and Passionate American are identifying Mr. Edmund with certain Instant Messages ("IMs"). You have indicated that ABC News mistakenly published these alleged Ims and that you should not have been able to obtain this information. Whether this is true or not is beside the point. Without any foundation or legal permission, you are stating that our client is the person associated with the Ims. Neither ABC News nor Brian Ross have been error free in their reporting in the past. You should not assume that they are correct now. Like all individuals and institutions, they occasionally make mistakes. Therefore, I respectfully demand that you cease any further efforts to identify our client with these alleged Ims and cease publishing such information on Passionate America. Neither you nor Passionate American is authorized to use any photograph of him, his name or his personal information. You should consult with an attorney who is experienced in civil and criminal liability regarding the internet. If you are correct that ABC News should not have released the alleged AOL screen name and that ABC News has risked civil and criminal liability because of the unauthorized release, then your republication of the unauthorized release likewise exposes you to possible liability.

Sincerely,

Stephen Jones

JONES, OTJEN, DAVIS, NIXON & JUHL

114 E. Broadway, Suite 1100

P.O. Box 472

Enid, Oklahoma 73702

(580) 242-5500

(580) 242-4556 (fax)

sjones@stephenjoneslaw.com

So I have contacted some of the people I have met in the past few days for advice. My view on this is I have already published the story many people have put this on their websites also. Much of the main stream media has put the story out. The cat is out of the bag. Is Stephen Jones going to send these emails out to thousands of people? I believe I have done nothing wrong legally, until I hear different from people smarter than me I am going to treat this as a threat and leave everything on the website. I could use your help; do you know anyone that can help me? Send me an email.

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I copied and pasted the entire post. Go here to see it.

This type of attempted intimidation is not cool.

I say that to fight this... everyone needs to blog about it. Copy and Paste some of the info to your own blog, then save the original post (yours and the one at Passionate America) to your computer, burn it to some CDs.

Let Mr. Jones try to burn those books.


3 comments :

I sent this to Mr. Kerr; feel free to publish it:

I read the email from the attorney.

His client is now what is known under the law as a "semi-public" personality, if in fact not a "public personality," given the scope of the story, the breadth of its dissemination, and the fact that his client is employed as a political operative in an active campaign for the governorship.

Unless the subject's attorney can demonstrate that you published "with a reckless disregard for the truth" in a "malicious manner," he can go pound sand. If the IM scammer thinks this is the best legal representation he can get, he's cooked.

I thought the most foolish part of his email had to do with premising you must have someone's "authorization" to run his client's name or photograph. The guy is a campaign staffer, and this is legitimate news affecting the campaign with which he is associated.

He appears publicly in connection with the campaign as a matter of his employment; does this attorney think news organizations around the world have to either get his client's permission to have his image in a photo, or else brush stroke the guy out if they don't? What a maroon.

Well, I guess you have to give the attorney 2 points for trying to bluff you into submission. While he is suggesting you seek an attorney familiar with civil and criminal liability, he may want to contact an attorney himself to stop having a "fool for a client" when considering exactly what you will be able to subpoena and depose if a civil suit is filed - multiplied infinitely if a criminal investigation began. There are no Fifth Amendment claims in a civil suit. Ask OJ Simpson.

To sum up what I would tell the attorney threatening me with civil and criminal liability: "Oh Br'er Fox - please don't throw me into that briar patch . . ."

All the remarks I've made are my personal opinion, and in no way should be constructed to reflect the opinion of the publications for which I write. Feel free to publish this if it will get the attorney to stop making a national fool of himself.



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I appreciate your take on the matter.
I feel it became that much more of a story when Mr. Jones threatened action against the blogger, and he achieved Prima Donna status when he started giving interviews.
Plus, it is real ugly when a mere staffer becomes more famous that the candidate.

I think the Democrats are as guilty as the Republicans for "sitting on this" for so long (waiting to use it for this October Surprise). I also think in the case of Edmund the story may be unravelling (the prank headline yesterday, among other things) to not be quite the "victim" angle the press is spinning it as. But there are still no excuses for Foley, and I would only caution to wait until everything is dug up still before trying to debunk the whole thing. I don't think Foley resigned because of a prank. There may be more there, and there's reports of more pages coming out of the woodwork. Time, and the law, will tell about Foley and either condemn him or vindicate him. I'm content to let that process run its course. Too bad the media isn't, and we'll have to suffer 24/7 Foley...at least until Kim Jong-il lights off his nuclear candle perhaps......